1 00:00:33,23 --> 00:00:39,11 I don't want them making the film about know about the semitism I'm discernment is 2 00:00:39,12 --> 00:00:45,02 it would stop me it's when people hate day the Jewish people are. Always. 3 00:00:46,42 --> 00:00:51,09 Just people want World War. Yeah of course. 4 00:00:59,60 --> 00:01:04,30 The the Israeli Jew I have never experienced under Semitism myself but it's 5 00:01:04,31 --> 00:01:06,43 a phrase that always seems to be in the air. 6 00:01:19,68 --> 00:01:26,68 As we would seem to appear over and over again. A little close to. Nazi. 7 00:01:27,76 --> 00:01:32,60 And the semitism living in a country that was called the to give the Jewish people 8 00:01:32,61 --> 00:01:37,32 a safe place to live and I found this really disturbing so I decided that I wanted 9 00:01:37,33 --> 00:01:44,24 to learn more about the subject. Ladies and 10 00:01:44,25 --> 00:01:46,62 gentleman. This is 11 00:01:46,63 --> 00:01:51,60 a faux nun the head and face of the anti the from Asian league I have been. 12 00:01:53,93 --> 00:01:58,10 Lucky. You have survived my miracle to show off. 13 00:02:02,54 --> 00:02:03,38 The A.D.L. 14 00:02:03,42 --> 00:02:06,83 Is the biggest I'm going to zoom in the world fighting under Semitism with 15 00:02:06,84 --> 00:02:08,94 a budget of over seventy million dollars 16 00:02:08,95 --> 00:02:14,32 a year Abe Foxman has become v symbol of the fight against anti-Semitism in the 17 00:02:14,33 --> 00:02:19,65 world today I thought he might be able to open some doors for me on the go so I 18 00:02:19,66 --> 00:02:25,05 asked him to help me ultimately feel. He folks one was very welcoming I think he 19 00:02:25,06 --> 00:02:25,32 legged 20 00:02:25,33 --> 00:02:30,18 a deal for an Israeli filmmaker taking an interest in anti semitism and he agreed 21 00:02:30,22 --> 00:02:34,63 to give me and president of access to his organization which has its headquarters 22 00:02:34,67 --> 00:02:37,51 in Manhattan. He's done 23 00:02:37,52 --> 00:02:42,89 a film which I still don't understand what it is but but we said yes yes yes you're 24 00:02:42,90 --> 00:02:48,64 on the record OK I'll be good OK he's not going to hurt us on the other hand he 25 00:02:48,65 --> 00:02:49,11 said he's 26 00:02:49,12 --> 00:02:53,97 a good journalist OK three words to get you know good stuff folks when it's reduced 27 00:02:53,98 --> 00:03:00,04 me to some of the senior stuff at the headquarters you can talk to him too. Which 28 00:03:00,05 --> 00:03:06,92 is like the biggest issue of this in dealing with oh yes yes in the world there's 29 00:03:06,93 --> 00:03:11,58 no question about it certainly in the United States but I would say in the world we 30 00:03:11,59 --> 00:03:16,49 have all of our twenty seven offices all over the country with their ears to the 31 00:03:16,50 --> 00:03:22,55 railroad tracks it starts with me in salt denigrating statement and at the very top 32 00:03:22,56 --> 00:03:28,05 what is what you have this genocide and the in-between is every bad thing that 33 00:03:28,06 --> 00:03:34,84 could happen to somebody. This is my grandmother she's over 34 00:03:34,85 --> 00:03:40,95 ninety years old and she lives in Jerusalem. I decided to tell her about 35 00:03:40,96 --> 00:03:46,46 a film I am making I decided to leave their ID the right just came out of that ship 36 00:03:46,47 --> 00:03:52,39 years. Sure there's a better rebalancing of a muzhik you know as 37 00:03:52,40 --> 00:03:58,93 a traveler grandmother a. Bad outcome. Yeah selfish I'm sorry if 38 00:03:58,94 --> 00:04:03,80 a few who are me her family emigrated from Russia in the nineteenth century because 39 00:04:03,81 --> 00:04:09,49 of the strums at least ideology The first came to Israel Palestine as it was then 40 00:04:09,65 --> 00:04:13,94 because they thought it was the only solution to disseminate his I'm not here 41 00:04:13,95 --> 00:04:20,04 namely how we are not alone look if it undeniably look effect that we should run 42 00:04:20,05 --> 00:04:21,40 into often like 43 00:04:21,41 --> 00:04:27,37 a Christian that believe him playback the fuck yeah so my guess is 44 00:04:27,38 --> 00:04:31,61 a vote. I will give him 45 00:04:31,62 --> 00:04:38,45 a long shame in my love. Of it I don't wish him all that and for shame not as 46 00:04:38,46 --> 00:04:43,37 I would not buy even the Russian tension in the ocean the ship I'm numb I'm not by 47 00:04:43,38 --> 00:04:50,22 him but you're young good damn. Lamb 48 00:04:50,23 --> 00:04:55,38 I'm nobody here and move in case if you do you can sit where you deserve them my 49 00:04:57,57 --> 00:05:01,88 you this are my. Case 50 00:05:01,89 --> 00:05:06,47 a phenomenon of both overlap both in we are homeless are some cause I believe love 51 00:05:07,22 --> 00:05:13,09 love I know someone who loved it and loved in session your mother that charm you 52 00:05:13,10 --> 00:05:13,74 should consider 53 00:05:13,75 --> 00:05:18,73 a little of both told me I have doing something noble of this very lover. 54 00:05:22,52 --> 00:05:24,92 Is a real love and has 55 00:05:24,93 --> 00:05:31,74 a second. Zap over here 56 00:05:31,75 --> 00:05:32,60 I hope is 57 00:05:32,61 --> 00:05:39,11 a sham say me again my you dear that I punish. You dear that our partnership. 58 00:05:40,51 --> 00:05:46,28 Our new year met her new year you D. I meet Look I said the same to have a T.V. 59 00:05:46,55 --> 00:05:53,50 Show. The best want to share usually in general of the you 60 00:05:53,51 --> 00:05:58,06 know nothing of it and your lady at the Emirates into your child will she be of 61 00:05:58,07 --> 00:06:02,73 some I'm sure you'd issue here after all right of all Mr Hitler the way our whole 62 00:06:02,74 --> 00:06:04,76 economy you know that whole MO 63 00:06:10,57 --> 00:06:14,73 tens of thousands of his Really high school students fled to Poland each year to 64 00:06:14,74 --> 00:06:19,21 learn firsthand about the whole caused the was genocide in human history and the 65 00:06:19,22 --> 00:06:25,52 most thorough result of Fundy Semitism. When I was in high school in the late 66 00:06:25,53 --> 00:06:29,34 eighty's there were less than five hundred kids going on this trip in the whole 67 00:06:29,35 --> 00:06:32,49 country today there are more than thirty thousand. 68 00:06:59,34 --> 00:07:04,87 I decided to join them on their journey. And their initial preparation which takes 69 00:07:04,88 --> 00:07:11,83 place if you have the shame Yes and in time for us my father and 70 00:07:11,84 --> 00:07:18,29 mother I think that will happen in my. Homeland them up that I have not done 71 00:07:18,66 --> 00:07:25,56 and I'm not going to be. Funneling money to them but 72 00:07:25,57 --> 00:07:26,36 on the sham it's 73 00:07:26,37 --> 00:07:30,81 a tsunami question as I mentioned I have gotten that off on the south side of that 74 00:07:31,01 --> 00:07:36,87 for himself for years some of the homes on and on. Quite 75 00:07:36,88 --> 00:07:43,54 a highway again my voice you should know low level to sort of pull the goldfish in 76 00:07:43,55 --> 00:07:44,02 and it's all 77 00:07:44,03 --> 00:07:50,37 a shot. And I go show us stuff to slee do is sit quietly on their feet for we want 78 00:07:50,38 --> 00:07:55,58 to show our way to dart the Labatt's laugh and the Boches longish nondestructive on 79 00:07:55,59 --> 00:08:01,05 the sky very late the main mogas Chava now gushes the gun and they make all mushy 80 00:08:01,06 --> 00:08:02,60 notes and I would guess from 81 00:08:02,61 --> 00:08:08,80 a five. Not just last week I was off the kids are going to 82 00:08:08,81 --> 00:08:13,25 a little preparation for the trip to Portland this school counselor is in charge of 83 00:08:13,26 --> 00:08:17,94 their mental preparation the still very much love in the culture then as now you 84 00:08:18,16 --> 00:08:21,26 thought that the shame of the bouncing on the good mom or none of what we call the 85 00:08:21,27 --> 00:08:24,96 show are coming that is full of additional to much on the qualified to call it on 86 00:08:24,97 --> 00:08:27,46 them yes McClement ashamed about the cost of 87 00:08:27,47 --> 00:08:32,49 a walkover belt most of. Them play with them to go out there because you're going 88 00:08:32,50 --> 00:08:38,98 to get lots of. Them and They say it's 89 00:08:38,99 --> 00:08:44,01 a come down to become of the freedom of the female yet still one of the. Castle in 90 00:08:44,02 --> 00:08:45,87 my office the I'm a comic if you're sitting on 91 00:08:45,88 --> 00:08:49,67 a section are the ones that know your love the most out of the seven step them 92 00:08:49,68 --> 00:08:54,76 sadly that may or may not come so down I am largely what their kids who are of 93 00:08:54,77 --> 00:08:59,66 course struggle started rushing off. To grab isn't even going to much and we look 94 00:08:59,67 --> 00:09:01,93 at family and investors and sunny 95 00:09:02,89 --> 00:09:09,81 a. Lot of them come around one come in. For bed some show you live 96 00:09:09,82 --> 00:09:10,04 to. 97 00:09:21,72 --> 00:09:28,16 Let others. Feel so not. So much. 98 00:09:30,17 --> 00:09:35,20 Because I think you see. I mean to me that's 99 00:09:35,21 --> 00:09:41,13 a pension from my fantasy. Should be 100 00:09:41,90 --> 00:09:48,30 something. That is the most popular and influential newspaper in Israel 101 00:09:48,78 --> 00:09:52,98 I'm curious about the people behind the reports of fun to Semitism I read on 102 00:09:52,99 --> 00:09:57,04 a daily basis. I mean he you know there's 103 00:09:57,05 --> 00:10:02,91 a vehicle for you know millions of other. You have to show me. Can. 104 00:10:03,98 --> 00:10:08,48 You show me. A myth myth you know that all my Millie come on to share 105 00:10:09,03 --> 00:10:15,43 a loss of their beloved you know. The bloom of love he must seek without 106 00:10:16,15 --> 00:10:20,54 you Shante showed me what I wanted to know about your government you know I'm out 107 00:10:20,55 --> 00:10:25,59 of anger like him to ship me. The meds include I want to ship me back to town will 108 00:10:25,59 --> 00:10:31,86 . Be like money before and so to do the big. 109 00:10:33,28 --> 00:10:35,67 Name of your big. Tough being 110 00:10:35,68 --> 00:10:40,14 a lawyer got to go big to get most of them up the street boys that I bought over 111 00:10:40,15 --> 00:10:44,28 the week when I got up because if that way tonight about they should go along with 112 00:10:44,29 --> 00:10:48,05 me because it. But I should know because it. 113 00:10:55,04 --> 00:10:57,15 National remission I'm sure from the man of 114 00:10:57,16 --> 00:11:04,23 a minute. Before. That 115 00:11:04,24 --> 00:11:10,36 he took up the stream of punishment. I got paltry so hot that you dealt with 116 00:11:10,53 --> 00:11:15,73 a lot of the might of all time to get to know he's over eighty years old and he's 117 00:11:15,74 --> 00:11:19,30 making sure that the future generation of people it is that will be just as 118 00:11:19,31 --> 00:11:22,47 committed to the seas just before the first rodeo. 119 00:11:27,38 --> 00:11:29,71 For example and that's one of the many 120 00:11:29,72 --> 00:11:32,49 a phenomenon as of late or not I think there. 121 00:11:37,64 --> 00:11:44,38 Are some of the mystical who. Think you're sick of the free to be going to go to 122 00:11:44,39 --> 00:11:50,90 school stuff. For the Brits the picture of it look at the local man they may have 123 00:11:50,91 --> 00:11:55,51 based on the headline in the Israeli paper it was quite boring I wanted to see how 124 00:11:55,52 --> 00:12:01,98 the anti the formation League actually fights and the semitism policy. Is everybody 125 00:12:01,98 --> 00:12:03,88 . Has 126 00:12:03,89 --> 00:12:10,47 a secretary. Thank you and they're going to come back you will know. 127 00:12:11,91 --> 00:12:15,09 How to see and say all of the conditions of Jolie. 128 00:12:19,13 --> 00:12:21,89 And the view of the author nice to be so let me give you 129 00:12:21,90 --> 00:12:28,41 a card you. Know both here not that but here 130 00:12:28,81 --> 00:12:34,76 are the workings of. The reason I asked 131 00:12:34,77 --> 00:12:40,89 a simple of you is. What looks like a spike. And dismayed 132 00:12:40,90 --> 00:12:47,52 a racist. To mean he's going to 133 00:12:47,53 --> 00:12:54,52 station. New York seems to be the center at least getting the attention. I 134 00:12:54,53 --> 00:12:56,44 when you see it how do you see it but have 135 00:12:56,45 --> 00:13:01,58 a lot of meetings with the police department was we. Talk is there is 136 00:13:01,59 --> 00:13:07,78 a wait is no question about this attached to the time of the year here tapster 137 00:13:08,33 --> 00:13:12,81 presidential election I'm not quite sure why we're saying it here you have enough 138 00:13:13,02 --> 00:13:19,83 resources to deal with Dale's not. To do it and were flooded every day with these 139 00:13:19,84 --> 00:13:23,65 things all over the country it's a very big problem it could include the A.D.L. 140 00:13:23,66 --> 00:13:27,24 Records from the last couple of years the average number of fundie Semitic 141 00:13:27,25 --> 00:13:28,59 incidents in the U.S. 142 00:13:28,81 --> 00:13:29,02 Is 143 00:13:29,03 --> 00:13:33,56 a wrong fifteen hundred thirty years. I'm hoping joy live you can help me find the 144 00:13:33,57 --> 00:13:40,06 case I'll be able to follow where the three case I'm just going to meet like Dr 145 00:13:40,95 --> 00:13:46,87 was really like retiring hello so that the country great we're going over the 146 00:13:46,88 --> 00:13:51,33 phrase data collected over the last couple of weeks to see if there's anything I 147 00:13:51,34 --> 00:13:56,76 would be able to feel we have received in the last week or so. 148 00:13:59,21 --> 00:14:06,20 Someone here who employ me case someone who. Didn't. Know I was unable to take 149 00:14:06,21 --> 00:14:11,19 days off for the holiday. Someone who. 150 00:14:13,07 --> 00:14:17,44 Is a schoolteacher I wanted to use Office of the someone who is 151 00:14:17,45 --> 00:14:23,39 a nursing student and had some issues for taking time off as well as with taking 152 00:14:23,40 --> 00:14:28,47 time off. We also got a phone call from someone who was complaining about 153 00:14:28,48 --> 00:14:34,83 a website that had anti-Semitic remarks on it I somebody was complaining about an 154 00:14:34,84 --> 00:14:38,44 article in the newspaper they thought handouts and that one had the magic 155 00:14:38,45 --> 00:14:45,28 undertones. And. That seems to be around and 156 00:14:45,29 --> 00:14:48,46 that's what we've had the last it was of those are the kinds of incidents that 157 00:14:48,47 --> 00:14:53,16 without recently five in two weeks so there's no way to predict there wasn't 158 00:14:53,17 --> 00:14:58,84 anything suitable from the last two weeks. So Joe Levy tries to help me to find 159 00:14:58,85 --> 00:15:03,79 a case looking for is an incident that they might be able and they will do all the 160 00:15:03,80 --> 00:15:07,88 contact with an incident they might be able to follow to actually see something 161 00:15:07,89 --> 00:15:12,32 that has happened to go to the site talk to people there to show what has happened 162 00:15:12,33 --> 00:15:18,34 the impact on them how we interact with all of that and so on Assemblyman he can 163 00:15:18,35 --> 00:15:18,78 that has 164 00:15:18,79 --> 00:15:25,76 a lot of Jewish voters in Brooklyn and he said just of the case for me. You know I 165 00:15:25,77 --> 00:15:31,22 had a very interesting case. Just last week a woman went to 166 00:15:31,23 --> 00:15:36,40 a funeral in not too far from here thousands of people and she heard 167 00:15:36,41 --> 00:15:42,06 a police officer on the phone say something to someone else something very 168 00:15:42,07 --> 00:15:47,57 derogatory about the jew something to somebody this woman was at the funeral she 169 00:15:47,58 --> 00:15:50,38 heard this she was so upset she wrote me 170 00:15:50,39 --> 00:15:54,93 a letter I can show you the letter and she called me. 171 00:15:58,72 --> 00:16:05,65 OK Is this the only letter Yeah OK I will be reporting to you actually you could 172 00:16:05,66 --> 00:16:09,88 look at it. I overheard a very disturbing conversation that 173 00:16:09,89 --> 00:16:15,80 a policeman had on his cell phone I heard him say very loudly I wasn't even 174 00:16:15,81 --> 00:16:20,83 standing post to him quote I'm just finishing this Jewish shit. 175 00:16:24,89 --> 00:16:30,57 Sorry for using this kind of language but this is the exact quote I was so offended 176 00:16:30,58 --> 00:16:36,87 by the vulgar language which is never appropriate etc and she goes on I made that 177 00:16:36,95 --> 00:16:42,50 the police officer called the woman he apologized on the telephone he confirmed it 178 00:16:42,51 --> 00:16:46,64 was a good case but the police wouldn't let the officer go on camera and 179 00:16:46,65 --> 00:16:51,08 a Jewish woman seemed to be satisfied that the policeman had apologized and 180 00:16:51,09 --> 00:16:52,98 realized that it might take some time to find 181 00:16:52,99 --> 00:16:58,40 a suitable case to film and the kids had just finished. So I had to join them and 182 00:16:58,41 --> 00:16:59,27 fly to Poland. 183 00:17:21,76 --> 00:17:25,40 I have. Not. 184 00:17:34,78 --> 00:17:41,76 Thought Stanford looks. Like. The man with the blacked out is an 185 00:17:41,77 --> 00:17:45,64 Israeli secret service agent whose identity we are not allowed to reveal. 186 00:17:49,10 --> 00:17:55,74 Or so much so. This issue so from shouldn't find out all of. US have because the 187 00:17:55,75 --> 00:18:00,79 polish on one of the ship. I mean I'm sure there are many other. 188 00:18:04,15 --> 00:18:08,15 Troubling Iran born today it's hard to imagine what it must have looked like over 189 00:18:08,16 --> 00:18:13,25 sixty years ago but the guides help the kids to visualize and feel how it was under 190 00:18:13,26 --> 00:18:19,28 the Nazi regime I mean it's me. There should be much of. 191 00:18:25,92 --> 00:18:32,07 That that. She had never heard of Kate fans and I know he won't come out on. 192 00:18:33,39 --> 00:18:39,42 The farm for a week of the things you can't understand I mean now that's what 193 00:18:39,43 --> 00:18:44,50 a life I want you for people to have one way to. Keep. 194 00:18:47,70 --> 00:18:54,14 In mind for. Me. 195 00:19:05,65 --> 00:19:10,07 Think you're going to get you with the movie I want. 196 00:19:12,63 --> 00:19:14,12 To use that I don't need them we've got 197 00:19:14,13 --> 00:19:16,45 a we're going to school yeah we're going to risk 198 00:19:16,46 --> 00:19:23,26 a new station. So that is very sad. Because I'm just. Going to actually go to 199 00:19:23,27 --> 00:19:28,42 that is that I you know look to point out that. Almost all of the girls on the side 200 00:19:28,43 --> 00:19:35,15 of those awful close feel that I think twice about what about the Mossad. But for 201 00:19:35,16 --> 00:19:37,42 me what we've done the ornate. 202 00:19:43,95 --> 00:19:46,75 Love I got to. Do. 203 00:19:50,81 --> 00:19:57,59 So not only. Stemming from you know. Him some of the love on the team on. 204 00:20:00,02 --> 00:20:05,54 The mission. Which is a pretty cool Kandahar I got I am 205 00:20:05,55 --> 00:20:11,05 a guy on the scene where he shot himself and he thought he would have called about 206 00:20:11,06 --> 00:20:16,45 food and I was off. Somewhere but yeah he would have 207 00:20:16,46 --> 00:20:21,31 a quote from Logan from the book that well you know we can't know. 208 00:20:27,55 --> 00:20:32,99 We're all right you know that you know call the room or you know he was go there 209 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:39,16 you know let's go next to mine yes how close have some of the guests have that you 210 00:20:39,17 --> 00:20:42,61 know that you so much you have to understand that you have some of the biggest 211 00:20:42,62 --> 00:20:49,44 fears that are coming down and the best thing to want to pay for it it's. The days 212 00:20:49,45 --> 00:20:53,07 in the Pullen sweeper get exhausting the kids and still have 213 00:20:53,08 --> 00:20:59,11 a lot of energy when they get back to the hotel where you really don't you. Know 214 00:20:59,41 --> 00:21:03,95 close the window and stayed in your room OK. Well look right there. 215 00:21:07,19 --> 00:21:13,86 To sort of like mind getting into music you had to keep open for him sharing 216 00:21:13,90 --> 00:21:19,87 his connivance cannot be simply right if you can but then Mission down is 217 00:21:19,88 --> 00:21:25,35 a. Very thin of his until you come home your scenario is the end of the. 218 00:21:26,74 --> 00:21:33,74 Good or to those survivors of the government that never did know it. If you do get 219 00:21:33,75 --> 00:21:38,05 a reference to the rip off about the whole it's all five years ago or the very 220 00:21:38,06 --> 00:21:44,18 first work which according to God's help could from what went on with her for most 221 00:21:44,19 --> 00:21:50,49 of their misery sucked through the focus of the most archetype of us because I was 222 00:21:50,78 --> 00:21:52,64 able to look at the Afghanistan as 223 00:21:52,65 --> 00:21:56,59 a coworker who told her that I'm sorry our theory that whenever we saw the facade 224 00:21:56,60 --> 00:22:03,41 of. The corridor the country came soon it just felt like it could be 225 00:22:04,14 --> 00:22:11,09 no kidding left Iraq to the south of the Center last night the question 226 00:22:11,10 --> 00:22:15,14 of how do you feel good war started your feet up in the shadows that is the curse 227 00:22:15,15 --> 00:22:20,86 of the good another as it was the father of the other Sorry folks you know this is 228 00:22:21,40 --> 00:22:25,14 because the kids were facing up to Semitism in Poland or at least feeling that they 229 00:22:25,15 --> 00:22:25,55 were 230 00:22:26,23 --> 00:22:37,13 a case was reported in Brooklyn that seemed suitable for the film. I 231 00:22:37,14 --> 00:22:44,03 knew. They 232 00:22:44,04 --> 00:22:50,03 couldn't live report. School bus when if young children had been pelted with stones 233 00:22:50,08 --> 00:22:54,68 as it was making its rounds dropping off children one of the stories his crest 234 00:22:54,69 --> 00:22:54,83 through 235 00:22:54,84 --> 00:22:59,32 a window one of the children is sleepy and landed in the aisle between the seats 236 00:22:59,73 --> 00:23:04,94 a second story window and barely miss. Two other children two mothers with us the 237 00:23:04,95 --> 00:23:07,35 incident and gave descriptions of 238 00:23:07,36 --> 00:23:14,33 a group of black youths between the ages of ten and twelve. Scared. Scared I 239 00:23:14,34 --> 00:23:20,82 was worried for the kids. It was awful to get money for me. All of 240 00:23:20,83 --> 00:23:21,62 a sudden event like 241 00:23:21,63 --> 00:23:28,54 a big noise and I was. Being most intolerant of not going to get back in the 242 00:23:28,55 --> 00:23:33,08 middle and so. It's not 243 00:23:33,09 --> 00:23:38,00 a shock to what I'm doing but you're stupid to think oh this isn't the. 244 00:23:40,63 --> 00:23:46,24 Going back to. Race. 245 00:23:53,54 --> 00:23:54,30 Crown Heights is 246 00:23:54,31 --> 00:23:58,08 a mixed neighborhood of Jews and Blacks in one thousand nine hundred one there was 247 00:23:58,09 --> 00:24:02,08 a lot of tension between the two communities living to the Crown Heights riots 248 00:24:02,13 --> 00:24:08,35 which went on for three days and resulted in many casualties. This is going to lead 249 00:24:08,36 --> 00:24:15,25 sheets the local reports in Crown Heights. Let me put your arms like air you know 250 00:24:15,78 --> 00:24:17,65 all that yeah I'm not 251 00:24:17,66 --> 00:24:23,22 a poster boy he was the first to report the incident at. The rocks one of the bus 252 00:24:23,23 --> 00:24:29,18 over there. And 253 00:24:30,52 --> 00:24:37,08 I mean most of the like of the crimes in Crown Heights are targeted at 254 00:24:37,25 --> 00:24:41,16 Jews it's always been known throughout the course of history Jews are soft targets 255 00:24:41,16 --> 00:24:46,48 . And we've been are the victims of so many many so. 256 00:24:47,92 --> 00:24:53,44 Major incidents genocides and catastrophes and Holocaust and everything it's just 257 00:24:53,83 --> 00:24:57,64 the way we are we've always been victimized when I when know when 258 00:24:57,65 --> 00:25:00,55 a black eye sees two people walking on a street a black person and 259 00:25:00,56 --> 00:25:04,97 a Jewish person has a choice to taxable not be a black person is 260 00:25:04,98 --> 00:25:08,16 a black person you never know what is that if they carry knives as you carry a gun 261 00:25:08,34 --> 00:25:08,74 a Jew is 262 00:25:08,75 --> 00:25:13,13 a soft target it's always been on like that which is why we always encourage to 263 00:25:13,14 --> 00:25:16,73 walk in pairs which is why we always we don't walk so much outside like 264 00:25:16,88 --> 00:25:18,21 a night so to speak alone. 265 00:25:23,93 --> 00:25:27,35 I thought I should speak with some of the blacks in the neighborhood to see what 266 00:25:27,36 --> 00:25:32,11 they feel about and to Semitism make their way to this guy and it will that it is 267 00:25:32,12 --> 00:25:35,13 going to be like. A German guy and 268 00:25:35,14 --> 00:25:38,88 a black guy walking the streets and you know that somebody wants to rob they would 269 00:25:38,89 --> 00:25:42,36 go for the like the good guy cause like is there is no target and I actually know 270 00:25:42,37 --> 00:25:46,67 he's wrong they will actually go for the black guy because I go for Jewish guy you 271 00:25:46,68 --> 00:25:50,19 get more Tom you're more like To the lawyers and the judges will actually give us 272 00:25:50,20 --> 00:25:53,06 more time a second someone of another race they've got 273 00:25:53,07 --> 00:25:57,69 a clever but I think he loves Rob each other because you get less time. I think 274 00:25:57,70 --> 00:26:00,39 like a practical thing right surprise it's the same it's 275 00:26:00,40 --> 00:26:03,42 a lot of wisdom behind the speaker like if you want to rob 276 00:26:03,43 --> 00:26:05,09 a Jewish person like Wellwood you about 277 00:26:05,10 --> 00:26:08,85 a Jewish person like you know never see them with nothing that would make you want 278 00:26:08,86 --> 00:26:11,76 to rob them like Yes QUESTION them up there they just did 279 00:26:11,77 --> 00:26:15,27 a recent example I'm not the most my husband got taught they're not 280 00:26:15,28 --> 00:26:19,02 a Jew person like all I'm just saying like everybody dress the same they overlook 281 00:26:19,03 --> 00:26:23,03 the same so and I would only get thirty five years I have never seen 282 00:26:23,07 --> 00:26:27,18 a Jewish person get problems now but they are going to is events between blacks and 283 00:26:27,19 --> 00:26:31,75 Jews right there I mean you know yeah well it's like favoritism they get treated 284 00:26:31,76 --> 00:26:35,63 better if you like the police or treat them better yes they don't if everything if 285 00:26:35,64 --> 00:26:36,30 I'm all good with 286 00:26:36,31 --> 00:26:40,39 a Jew because more come the meeting I thought about that they're going to think I'm 287 00:26:40,40 --> 00:26:42,20 the aggressor and I'm going to think that 288 00:26:42,21 --> 00:26:47,05 a person because they already have the perception that Jews are more holier than 289 00:26:47,06 --> 00:26:51,34 black people let me tell you something another thing you know they aren't supposed 290 00:26:51,35 --> 00:26:55,14 to be sold the chosen ones but they be in a welfare office and 291 00:26:55,15 --> 00:26:59,41 a section they often say the first once he gets there any kind of bargain deal on 292 00:26:59,42 --> 00:27:05,36 anything in the first one to get any kind of discount or they know the system very 293 00:27:05,37 --> 00:27:06,11 well OK 294 00:27:06,12 --> 00:27:09,70 a lot of times they have all this money coming in the house so but somehow they 295 00:27:09,71 --> 00:27:10,50 always had 296 00:27:10,51 --> 00:27:14,70 a way to manage didn't Section eight I think that whatever service is available 297 00:27:14,93 --> 00:27:18,58 trust me the Jewish people the first one to find out about it became the first one 298 00:27:18,59 --> 00:27:23,36 they utilize actually they're part of the mind control system that they used to 299 00:27:23,40 --> 00:27:27,56 television in the media the hierarchy that rape is in 300 00:27:27,57 --> 00:27:31,42 a book called The Elders of the Protocols of Zion I was in like eighteen ninety 301 00:27:31,43 --> 00:27:35,73 eight they were talking about how the Jews will use to. The media and propaganda to 302 00:27:35,74 --> 00:27:40,36 control the world and take over the world so little things like that just oh man 303 00:27:40,83 --> 00:27:41,91 Google the book I'm talking as 304 00:27:41,92 --> 00:27:46,02 a Russian who wrote the book to know that the whole of us are watching is all this 305 00:27:46,03 --> 00:27:48,65 all the Protocols of Zion read it gives you all I did 306 00:27:48,66 --> 00:27:51,74 a blueprint to take over the world. It is 307 00:27:51,75 --> 00:27:56,76 a given here right now. It's actually when you read it it says force but when you 308 00:27:56,77 --> 00:28:00,45 read it you see everything come to light the political is of the Elders of Zion 309 00:28:00,64 --> 00:28:05,60 describes how it all Jews and sit around the table looking conspiracies to take 310 00:28:05,61 --> 00:28:08,00 over the walls but that's considered to be like 311 00:28:08,01 --> 00:28:12,49 a really obvious to me book you know it is anti semitic to the surface it's really 312 00:28:12,50 --> 00:28:17,00 not as you see many not anti Semitic and with this display of people saying things 313 00:28:17,01 --> 00:28:20,30 and they really don't know he's talking about just the felony of the mind telling 314 00:28:20,31 --> 00:28:24,57 if. It's somebody telling the truth about something like that they have to be it's 315 00:28:24,58 --> 00:28:28,27 America's it's not in a Jew Jewish people fable it's not it's 316 00:28:28,28 --> 00:28:30,29 a magic it's just somebody being on it's 317 00:28:30,30 --> 00:28:34,08 a book that's what it is bottom line you know they just put things straight like 318 00:28:34,09 --> 00:28:37,68 this book that the books of the elderly of time well that was actually they said 319 00:28:37,69 --> 00:28:38,16 was written by 320 00:28:38,17 --> 00:28:42,31 a Jew Actually So it's really not anti-Semitic but his lawyers did do this book was 321 00:28:42,32 --> 00:28:46,39 like kind of a for all you know it is a Friday. There wasn't such 322 00:28:46,40 --> 00:28:47,48 a thing you know it's like 323 00:28:47,49 --> 00:28:51,54 a bunch of people sitting together running to walls you know this is kind of bushy 324 00:28:51,55 --> 00:28:55,32 but you know that's bullshit that he says that that that that is it is not true no 325 00:28:55,33 --> 00:28:55,61 it's like 326 00:28:55,62 --> 00:28:59,20 a false book that's not bullshit as far as like knowledge of people you know 327 00:28:59,21 --> 00:29:02,62 government in the world for the United Nations is a bunch of people sit in 328 00:29:02,63 --> 00:29:06,65 a government an awareness on how to generate on most you know it's different you 329 00:29:06,66 --> 00:29:08,06 know because of 330 00:29:08,07 --> 00:29:11,96 a so exactly this out there is that something like pretty harsh stuff about like 331 00:29:11,97 --> 00:29:15,27 you know Jewish people and I don't know that you know no no no no listen we know 332 00:29:15,28 --> 00:29:20,19 that I love your parents I mean I so maybe when they like you guys in the streets 333 00:29:20,23 --> 00:29:24,50 and they feel like afraid or they think tension there is something you know like 334 00:29:24,94 --> 00:29:27,35 I'm going to have fun before they don't know what they know it's 335 00:29:27,36 --> 00:29:30,24 a time to get to know if she was something that they separate themselves from I 336 00:29:30,25 --> 00:29:33,80 don't want to know so we all want to get the know someone I would know you can like 337 00:29:33,84 --> 00:29:38,16 kill you but you try to try to get to know them you try to make you try to 338 00:29:38,17 --> 00:29:42,85 manipulate the face shelves not YOU NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO because we told you we 339 00:29:42,86 --> 00:29:47,24 have no problem with someone first like why why would we be afraid of them also 340 00:29:47,31 --> 00:29:50,37 this is a. Misunderstanding and it's 341 00:29:50,38 --> 00:29:55,11 a lack of communication how do we know let's say for months I mean how can we then 342 00:29:55,12 --> 00:29:58,40 made me realize that living in a mixed community can create 343 00:29:58,41 --> 00:30:02,77 a level of tension that can be easily inflamed and when to talk about the situation 344 00:30:02,78 --> 00:30:07,79 with one of the leaders of the Jewish community as commissioner for human rights 345 00:30:08,28 --> 00:30:14,40 even the attack on the school bus not every time when somebody called somebody with 346 00:30:14,41 --> 00:30:19,93 a name that you are Jewish so and so or you are black so and so does that mean that 347 00:30:19,94 --> 00:30:20,12 I am 348 00:30:20,13 --> 00:30:25,78 a racist in heart or as an anti-Semite and they said my part or that I'm doing it 349 00:30:25,97 --> 00:30:32,95 only because of anti-Semitism if five crimes happen five blacks 350 00:30:33,00 --> 00:30:39,74 against five Jews it has to be anti-Semitism why. This it 351 00:30:39,83 --> 00:30:46,47 even if the reason why I hit the Jewish kid is because I knew exactly to fight back 352 00:30:46,76 --> 00:30:50,75 well the white woman in this neighborhood was a Jewish woman I stole a pack 353 00:30:50,76 --> 00:30:55,02 a book because I know I was going to be easy prey that's not called him by savages 354 00:30:56,91 --> 00:30:59,82 No again you want to put it into some category like the guy off 355 00:30:59,83 --> 00:31:01,94 a long period of time because he saw 356 00:31:01,95 --> 00:31:05,22 a weak woman that he grabbed it but again I think we have gone 357 00:31:05,23 --> 00:31:09,69 a little too far my Many of the anti semitic you see those who put it by the A.D.L. 358 00:31:09,80 --> 00:31:14,18 Have been to Orthodox Jews says they are the easiest to spot so I was pretty 359 00:31:14,19 --> 00:31:19,84 surprised by Rob I have two sons let me tell you guys I am suspicious when 360 00:31:19,85 --> 00:31:25,07 a guy makes a living from particular situation so if there's 361 00:31:25,08 --> 00:31:28,14 a particular film crew that make 362 00:31:28,68 --> 00:31:34,72 a living from blood that's it I'm suspicious every time they show blood if 363 00:31:34,73 --> 00:31:41,29 a guy is sick created only because rather Semitism I'm nervous about 364 00:31:41,30 --> 00:31:47,20 his. Reports are they accurate he has to create a problem because he needs 365 00:31:47,21 --> 00:31:52,83 a job so you say like I mean there is not like 366 00:31:52,84 --> 00:31:59,51 a credible organization or. I really can't pass judgment on the organizations 367 00:32:00,05 --> 00:32:06,91 believe it that will be politically correct. But but listen clearly 368 00:32:07,12 --> 00:32:07,90 the A.D.L. 369 00:32:07,91 --> 00:32:13,96 Has been responsible in certain areas to flare up things as much as save they've 370 00:32:13,97 --> 00:32:20,52 helped. And of course having said that no I'm on the 371 00:32:20,96 --> 00:32:26,91 ideals of blacklists now so. Mr Foxman is not going to come to my home for dinner 372 00:32:27,72 --> 00:32:28,48 but we're treated. 373 00:32:36,13 --> 00:32:37,63 And it goes and part of the A.T.O. 374 00:32:37,64 --> 00:32:42,43 Is work or the international missions and folks Monday said of the two Allow me to 375 00:32:42,44 --> 00:32:44,63 join him every year 376 00:32:44,74 --> 00:32:48,94 a few Adeel board members and contributors get to join folks line as 377 00:32:48,95 --> 00:32:53,91 a trouble to various countries meeting heads of state politicians and other 378 00:32:53,92 --> 00:32:57,20 influential people who can help in the fight against anti semitism. 379 00:33:05,00 --> 00:33:09,10 It's like an organized tour but apart from visiting museums and other two is the 380 00:33:09,11 --> 00:33:10,97 drug shows the chosen A.D.L. 381 00:33:10,98 --> 00:33:15,61 Members get to join folks not in taking an active part in the struggle against anti 382 00:33:15,62 --> 00:33:22,52 semitism. After debate one is for washing it when someone is 383 00:33:22,69 --> 00:33:29,08 a cashier you are serious. You're here for serious business you can see that for 384 00:33:29,80 --> 00:33:35,55 everything that they use that seriousness the police escort along the way made me 385 00:33:35,56 --> 00:33:40,05 realize that I was travelling with some pretty important people have seen the pope 386 00:33:40,06 --> 00:33:44,09 tomorrow. Will be friendly. And. 387 00:33:54,16 --> 00:33:59,32 Help for us I'm curious about how Mr Foxman gets to meet all these important people 388 00:33:59,85 --> 00:34:03,85 why would old isn't better those politicians and heads of state take the time to 389 00:34:03,86 --> 00:34:10,81 meet him it's their perception. Which one of the series of fantasy 390 00:34:10,82 --> 00:34:17,60 meetings. Very soon why. They believe me the more powerful the man 391 00:34:17,77 --> 00:34:23,68 the more sad Jews are and it's powerful as the Jews think we are no respect for his 392 00:34:23,69 --> 00:34:30,20 or her enemies think in some ways in which we might say do believe some 393 00:34:30,21 --> 00:34:32,05 extent and we can make 394 00:34:32,06 --> 00:34:36,33 a difference in Washington we're not going to convince them otherwise So how do you 395 00:34:36,38 --> 00:34:41,84 cite this sinister conspiratorial proved true. 396 00:34:43,10 --> 00:34:50,00 Without using it. But when the United Nations Congress to General Assembly. 397 00:34:51,12 --> 00:34:57,89 We meet with forty heads of state foreign ministers why I think I got it it's like 398 00:34:57,90 --> 00:35:02,37 a poker game in which Foxman Bluffs the other side into thinking the Jews have more 399 00:35:02,38 --> 00:35:07,16 influence imploring Washington and then they really have the downside is that their 400 00:35:07,17 --> 00:35:13,74 idea of Jews being so powerful can result in envy even hate. What's been his 401 00:35:13,75 --> 00:35:18,97 a very close relationship with the Israeli government. All right oh yeah. 402 00:35:24,06 --> 00:35:28,72 He's really relies on folks money when it comes to issues of anti-Semitism and 403 00:35:28,73 --> 00:35:35,53 being the DO state and he Semitism is always on the agenda. No. 404 00:35:39,77 --> 00:35:44,98 What I wanted to ask you since we met last about the here is over not so well 405 00:35:45,81 --> 00:35:52,11 because there were I heard voices kind of saying not so bad and that no American is 406 00:35:52,12 --> 00:35:57,42 not so bad but. I'm not convinced the course is good reason to me. 407 00:35:59,40 --> 00:36:05,04 Because getting worse where I. Am little by little will be as long as oil money 408 00:36:05,31 --> 00:36:11,58 works I'm told that by all experts it's the only except for Iran it's the only 409 00:36:11,59 --> 00:36:15,25 government propagated to sell it isn't there around the world it's 410 00:36:15,26 --> 00:36:21,29 a very warm this is for their country so I press and we've talked to. 411 00:36:22,86 --> 00:36:23,12 Just 412 00:36:23,13 --> 00:36:30,17 a Jackson right relationship but. It's not for camera there are other plans 413 00:36:31,06 --> 00:36:37,95 talk about it. Like. The first example for the postman he's 414 00:36:37,96 --> 00:36:39,58 talking about was a meeting with 415 00:36:39,59 --> 00:36:44,01 a special advisor to the Cuban president you Schenkel the Ukrainian government 416 00:36:44,02 --> 00:36:48,45 would like to distance itself from the embrace of the Russians and strengthen its 417 00:36:48,46 --> 00:36:53,57 ties with the West most especially the United States. They believe that the Jews 418 00:36:53,64 --> 00:36:55,30 can become their allies in the U.S. 419 00:36:55,31 --> 00:37:01,97 Congress become just celebrate your democracy but this come with 420 00:37:02,25 --> 00:37:08,82 mixed feelings history. In this country primary 421 00:37:09,72 --> 00:37:15,43 one of traction we would like to see more active. Rest. 422 00:37:16,72 --> 00:37:23,57 Approached you should. See it to come on folks one is concerned about the Ukrainian 423 00:37:23,58 --> 00:37:28,14 government's comparison of the family in the Ukraine before World War two with the 424 00:37:28,15 --> 00:37:33,62 Holocaust the one thing that you need to be sensitive about. 425 00:37:35,21 --> 00:37:41,05 Is not to link it. Because it will. Be careful. 426 00:37:42,36 --> 00:37:48,10 That it not be played. As your genocide. 427 00:37:50,38 --> 00:37:55,57 Because that will be counterproductive and also the other calls. 428 00:37:57,29 --> 00:38:03,91 Respect the locals and the I understood you message 429 00:38:04,32 --> 00:38:07,24 to the right can be very very diplomatic and. 430 00:38:12,27 --> 00:38:16,04 I was impressed by the way folks one handled the meeting but it also raises some 431 00:38:16,05 --> 00:38:16,92 questions for me. 432 00:38:23,91 --> 00:38:24,30 It was never 433 00:38:24,31 --> 00:38:30,98 a fair question to me for his cabinet but was he here. Yes. Those are the. 434 00:38:32,08 --> 00:38:38,07 Kinds. Of course I wasn't sure holding up things that the happened over sixty years 435 00:38:38,08 --> 00:38:41,90 ago had any relevance to fighting anti semitism today in 436 00:38:42,31 --> 00:38:44,13 a combat mission to take 437 00:38:45,10 --> 00:38:51,21 a picture take responsibility for anything that didn't last and which the press 438 00:38:51,69 --> 00:38:58,50 and. The house because when you. Think you can stay 439 00:38:58,72 --> 00:39:05,68 here if you want to know. Everything the past fifty years what his mother 440 00:39:05,69 --> 00:39:12,15 did. Absolutely not you know that's not 441 00:39:12,50 --> 00:39:19,37 that's not the American Jewish way. That it's really true. If you 442 00:39:19,49 --> 00:39:23,87 think that's. The you play on that. 443 00:39:29,22 --> 00:39:32,56 If I asked we're going forward with 444 00:39:32,57 --> 00:39:38,22 a few suspects sometimes you know to make outlays are you always wrong and she's 445 00:39:38,23 --> 00:39:43,23 always right that way that you ever forget it is in America and if so then to tell 446 00:39:43,24 --> 00:39:48,95 me twenty years ago what I did wrong we have an argument now but you know twenty 447 00:39:48,96 --> 00:39:52,21 years you could if I took the stand it was trying to make sense but you know what. 448 00:39:53,56 --> 00:40:00,44 Because it's still taking the sponsibility of that because 449 00:40:00,45 --> 00:40:07,19 which is giving you doesn't help now so maybe you can to do them very much which 450 00:40:07,43 --> 00:40:13,95 you should. Give them some straight stick let's be friends to not forget the past 451 00:40:13,96 --> 00:40:15,21 but kind of feel 452 00:40:15,22 --> 00:40:22,05 a bit more moderate. You know killings we're going to be killed in 453 00:40:22,06 --> 00:40:28,60 five issues because it. Was on the sets and it's true of course it's I think 454 00:40:29,18 --> 00:40:35,43 it's true you have to take it you cannot let it go down but you can't keep playing 455 00:40:35,44 --> 00:40:41,06 on this I believe is some people try to be moderate but they feel like one of the 456 00:40:41,07 --> 00:40:44,56 people which quite heavily now know where Martin eighty 457 00:40:44,94 --> 00:40:51,82 a civil. Air the sound of the speech chant I'm 458 00:40:51,83 --> 00:40:58,55 feeling. It's not just the shortness of the tears I'm not talking to you I 459 00:40:58,56 --> 00:41:05,31 think of it when you see it and it's not just with me. Because 460 00:41:05,66 --> 00:41:11,91 really do it with all of this illusion work together for. You it's. 461 00:41:14,02 --> 00:41:15,39 Just it's it's 462 00:41:15,40 --> 00:41:22,30 a question of for the use of today. And actually. Coming up 463 00:41:22,34 --> 00:41:22,73 like this. 464 00:41:32,14 --> 00:41:35,45 I could understand ape's is attributed to the Holocaust being 465 00:41:35,46 --> 00:41:41,05 a survivor. And was moved by the support of a seems from the A.D.L. 466 00:41:41,06 --> 00:41:46,95 Mission members. But the feeling I wanted to make is about anti-Semitism today. 467 00:41:48,62 --> 00:41:54,09 And I decided to explore my own an incident I had read about in the papers in 468 00:41:54,10 --> 00:41:55,31 Moscow and men with 469 00:41:55,32 --> 00:42:00,19 a knife had entered the synagogue and had started stabbing people there is 470 00:42:00,20 --> 00:42:02,84 a dent it was recorded on the security cameras. 471 00:42:09,45 --> 00:42:11,89 For. What will. 472 00:42:16,71 --> 00:42:19,21 Only eat fish. 473 00:42:33,37 --> 00:42:34,06 This time it was 474 00:42:34,07 --> 00:42:38,73 a shocking reminder of what I'm disseminate isn't going to be. I thought I should 475 00:42:38,74 --> 00:42:42,82 speak with the members of the synagogue to see how they felt about their own safety 476 00:42:42,82 --> 00:42:48,17 . Issue for you to see Nancy get this get back. 477 00:42:49,81 --> 00:42:56,79 At the one you have to when you. Knew that when you might need to. But the 478 00:42:56,80 --> 00:43:00,50 but you might if you were glad when I do you really send it in there but what does 479 00:43:00,51 --> 00:43:04,53 that make you look on the border there's a pretty. Good about it even you do have 480 00:43:04,54 --> 00:43:07,97 a possible bin you put look very good here and you only have to put the most day 481 00:43:07,98 --> 00:43:09,74 when you're going to get a D.V.D. 482 00:43:09,78 --> 00:43:13,41 a Going to give notice of all the trick you got in the ticket got me to do some 483 00:43:13,42 --> 00:43:17,96 come in you. Know stood there not 484 00:43:17,97 --> 00:43:21,85 a good start another minute at this even though that probably if she 485 00:43:21,86 --> 00:43:25,52 a stranger was that she was reason should it that we stand with him when he put in 486 00:43:25,53 --> 00:43:27,96 a pretty snag but neither am I going to look at 487 00:43:27,97 --> 00:43:31,87 a shot the political doesn't want to believe to criticize me says the system could 488 00:43:31,88 --> 00:43:36,22 because I didn't understand how can these religious Jews who go to the synagogue 489 00:43:36,23 --> 00:43:40,87 every day and are such easy targets for anti semites don't seem so concerned about 490 00:43:40,88 --> 00:43:46,32 the personal safety I decided to as the local rabbi who cared about it the truth is 491 00:43:46,33 --> 00:43:51,15 that for some reason secular Jews awarded it on to some of them the religious Jews 492 00:43:51,37 --> 00:43:56,49 if you know most of that so it's not that way it's just that on their agenda of 493 00:43:56,50 --> 00:44:02,15 being Jewish and they some of this was not part of being Jewish for an Orthodox Jew 494 00:44:03,23 --> 00:44:06,90 Part of being Jewish and fighting over some of the part of being Jewish is 495 00:44:06,91 --> 00:44:12,31 practicing Judaism there's no mitzvah tighter when you practice Judaism to fight 496 00:44:12,32 --> 00:44:17,41 other some of those. Same time fighting other some funding and some of this because 497 00:44:17,42 --> 00:44:21,04 of it's important for the Jewish people for the you know for the good we do 498 00:44:21,05 --> 00:44:26,70 throughout the world and very often people that are not practicing like you say 499 00:44:27,22 --> 00:44:31,93 that's where they find their thing so they'll you know express their Jewish 500 00:44:31,94 --> 00:44:32,39 identity in 501 00:44:32,40 --> 00:44:35,96 a way that they'll be fighting to some of them thereby helping the community and. 502 00:44:37,07 --> 00:44:41,53 That it's five hundred Some of us the rabbi said that it is actually an issue of 503 00:44:41,54 --> 00:44:47,53 identity. I wanted to know if Suzanne and Harvey Prince with agree with this theory 504 00:44:47,53 --> 00:44:53,60 . Carefulness. And I do it at the A.D.L. 505 00:44:53,61 --> 00:45:00,55 Helps to reinforce our Jewish identity because we're not. That we don't 506 00:45:00,56 --> 00:45:04,95 have a religious Jewish life the A.D.L. 507 00:45:04,96 --> 00:45:05,47 Provides 508 00:45:05,48 --> 00:45:11,59 a forum to be Jewish I mean it certainly is ninety nine point nine percent Jewish 509 00:45:12,13 --> 00:45:18,61 and it gives us an opportunity to explore being Jewish to look at Jewish 510 00:45:18,65 --> 00:45:21,32 issues and it does reinforce our Jewish and. 511 00:45:27,72 --> 00:45:29,99 Bubby are in the suburbs of Kiev is 512 00:45:30,00 --> 00:45:34,81 a must grave in reach thirty three thousand seven hundred seventy one Jews were 513 00:45:34,82 --> 00:45:39,63 shot after digging their own grave over the course of just two days in September 514 00:45:39,69 --> 00:45:40,79 one thousand forty one. 515 00:45:51,94 --> 00:45:52,71 Meaning. 516 00:45:59,65 --> 00:46:05,59 I think the worst thing from that standing here is that it could have been. 517 00:46:07,59 --> 00:46:13,03 Great but I can see people being marched out of T.M. 518 00:46:13,03 --> 00:46:19,86 . And shot Ronald lay some some people who 519 00:46:19,87 --> 00:46:24,95 would decide that's the thing to do right maybe they do it to Gates maybe they do 520 00:46:24,96 --> 00:46:29,69 it that's why we have to question what is right after Israel's our insurance policy 521 00:46:30,31 --> 00:46:34,83 but obviously that there are some other rock that are saved them look local say 522 00:46:35,22 --> 00:46:41,91 they are people who know him in. Austin and at home also Sasha along the room all 523 00:46:41,92 --> 00:46:48,44 of us are showing they know most of the strike removing if it was 524 00:46:48,45 --> 00:46:55,08 a question of being in the midst of this or. Yes in 525 00:46:55,09 --> 00:46:59,47 a minute the real life an intimate person is fine is 526 00:46:59,48 --> 00:47:01,34 a concern without Israel there isn't 527 00:47:01,35 --> 00:47:08,04 a safe Jew in the world. The way I feel. I 528 00:47:08,36 --> 00:47:11,10 see if two people immediately move to Israel if you have 529 00:47:11,11 --> 00:47:16,02 a better Israel needs you have two people right joining the army that wouldn't take 530 00:47:16,03 --> 00:47:22,51 an old lady but believe it or. The fact that either all the baggage is nothing out 531 00:47:22,56 --> 00:47:27,55 of glass question that you have is that military more love to Israel them no of 532 00:47:27,56 --> 00:47:29,39 course not right or 533 00:47:29,40 --> 00:47:35,35 a certain other like coexistence to motions How do I like what others do notions 534 00:47:35,36 --> 00:47:41,66 co-exist the fact that easy. You love your children you love your husband you love 535 00:47:41,67 --> 00:47:45,82 your friends equally you love your children more than your love your husband course 536 00:47:45,83 --> 00:47:52,15 now sometimes. My God your children you know you would die for your house it's like 537 00:47:52,16 --> 00:47:57,26 the question you my or your lie their husband or the kids I'm sorry Israel is the 538 00:47:57,27 --> 00:48:02,81 husband of the kids the kids the kids that you hear their kids love her so I don't 539 00:48:02,82 --> 00:48:06,36 buy Israel's love for a child it's a love for 540 00:48:06,37 --> 00:48:11,22 a child that much different than the love from husband. There's nothing like I 541 00:48:11,23 --> 00:48:15,58 really a love for a child so much more to protect your rights no no it's it's 542 00:48:15,59 --> 00:48:16,42 a much more. 543 00:48:24,89 --> 00:48:25,99 According to the A.D.L. 544 00:48:26,00 --> 00:48:27,56 Mission members Israel is 545 00:48:27,57 --> 00:48:32,52 a child which needs their support but is also their insurance policy in case 546 00:48:32,53 --> 00:48:37,27 something terrible should ever happen again but at this particular moment this 547 00:48:37,28 --> 00:48:39,34 insurance policy was busy being 548 00:48:39,35 --> 00:48:43,50 a teenager making its way to my deli concentration camps nearly all being. 549 00:48:58,78 --> 00:49:03,46 The ability to fight on television and all the national bullshit of it you know. 550 00:49:05,36 --> 00:49:05,49 It's 551 00:49:05,50 --> 00:49:29,97 a lot of it and it might. Not 552 00:49:29,98 --> 00:49:34,77 even close you can look at me. I just took 553 00:49:34,78 --> 00:49:40,63 a little. Bit thing I mean can you not honestly don't 554 00:49:41,48 --> 00:49:43,25 understand that there's 555 00:49:43,26 --> 00:49:49,42 a. I think some of the fuck it in the film 556 00:49:50,31 --> 00:49:51,94 Sicko that's not 557 00:49:51,95 --> 00:49:58,30 a dump. Bridget that's not that. I thought. Of her with all of the 558 00:49:58,31 --> 00:50:04,83 baseless. By the on the theme of this Elaine. I'm sure there is in the whole bar I 559 00:50:04,84 --> 00:50:11,82 love the. Woman A Brazilian. Who was 560 00:50:11,83 --> 00:50:17,05 coming in from the themes in the coming good pursuit of where the gas there in 561 00:50:17,42 --> 00:50:24,36 Moscow. Because it got some rather gum so I don't 562 00:50:24,37 --> 00:50:25,49 forget that the. 563 00:50:31,29 --> 00:50:36,64 So mostly vertical the Smithsonian yourself people used to think but that it's nice 564 00:50:36,65 --> 00:50:42,55 nice before the words that I did after playing shaman to fill the hole in the dark 565 00:50:42,56 --> 00:50:44,01 and I think I'm going to. 566 00:50:51,44 --> 00:50:57,85 Come to me. Like the war. 567 00:50:59,57 --> 00:51:05,19 Because of what. Has made. You know how is it possible that. 568 00:51:06,63 --> 00:51:13,21 Here or in the forest again. And we should. Say I love it if I can save 569 00:51:13,72 --> 00:51:17,29 a day. Away way my phone off. 570 00:51:20,77 --> 00:51:27,19 Myself to check it over the course of the. Shuttle mission that was Katherine sever 571 00:51:27,20 --> 00:51:34,14 the volatility. This was my first time in my identity as well 572 00:51:34,46 --> 00:51:38,78 and I could relate to the way the kids felt the heroes were almost impossible to 573 00:51:38,79 --> 00:51:43,67 they just but the kids just couldn't accept the fact that they wouldn't become 574 00:51:43,68 --> 00:51:48,76 emotional after all the true permission they'd been through so much human family 575 00:51:48,77 --> 00:51:49,04 from 576 00:51:49,05 --> 00:51:54,44 a stack of several more like that and I guess my aunt and of course having to share 577 00:51:55,22 --> 00:51:56,53 that on the on you know just because 578 00:51:56,54 --> 00:51:59,14 a simple I know it's become I thought the thing I do to sort of 579 00:51:59,15 --> 00:52:04,54 a well I don't like Uncle our characters. What if you're looking for the primary 580 00:52:04,59 --> 00:52:10,92 use writing of supplements to put it of your time to show you actually know much 581 00:52:10,93 --> 00:52:13,73 how to go over the world or 582 00:52:13,88 --> 00:52:18,60 a forest over the. Universe that wasn't going to. 583 00:52:24,02 --> 00:52:30,51 Really. Suppose you have to look very carefully give it three inches. 584 00:52:31,86 --> 00:52:38,70 You get. With them see this one here. Right here on the other 585 00:52:38,71 --> 00:52:45,29 front of most people. They look at this with 586 00:52:45,30 --> 00:52:52,26 a look over the heart me sir food. Mr food for with them we made 587 00:52:52,96 --> 00:52:58,12 our first. But she missed me and soon the heart of the money in. 588 00:52:59,90 --> 00:53:04,57 It For You would be me I would assume it has been my financial ground it occurred 589 00:53:04,58 --> 00:53:08,21 to me that after seeing The only thing comprehensible here is many people have 590 00:53:08,22 --> 00:53:15,06 suffered other people suffering might seem less significant somehow. I wondered if 591 00:53:15,07 --> 00:53:18,79 any of the kids felt this way to find out I wasn't. 592 00:53:22,40 --> 00:53:25,72 An entire forgot to be halfway baffled by such 593 00:53:25,73 --> 00:53:31,84 a Also negative layout of the time by side but then I go out and I don't know what 594 00:53:31,85 --> 00:53:33,98 I call bit like 595 00:53:33,99 --> 00:53:40,81 a fog very. Funny I don't want to. Shit shut Yes 596 00:53:41,38 --> 00:53:47,11 you want as I'm sure you want us and it was about then if you see out. There you 597 00:53:47,12 --> 00:53:53,01 can. Hardly matters no flow is not the only one thinking about the Israeli 598 00:53:53,02 --> 00:53:56,20 Palestinian conflict in relation to one of the semitism. 599 00:54:00,52 --> 00:54:04,62 Professor Norman Finkelstein the Jewish that they make from the Paul University in 600 00:54:04,63 --> 00:54:05,99 Chicago has written 601 00:54:06,00 --> 00:54:10,65 a book called the holocaust industry in which accuses birds of the Jewish 602 00:54:10,66 --> 00:54:17,40 establishment of making cynical political use of the Holocaust. And nothing 603 00:54:17,41 --> 00:54:22,57 Mr. Whenever Israel faces 604 00:54:22,58 --> 00:54:29,06 a public relations debacle or comes under pressure to resolve the Israel 605 00:54:29,07 --> 00:54:35,35 Palestine conflict they start up this extravaganza called the new 606 00:54:35,36 --> 00:54:39,42 anti-Semitism as it's usually understood at the summit has 607 00:54:39,43 --> 00:54:45,61 a means and irrational hatred of Jews born simply of the fact that they are Jewish 608 00:54:46,27 --> 00:54:48,66 but that's not what's going on here it's 609 00:54:49,04 --> 00:54:54,67 a hostility borne of the fact that the state which claims to represent them is 610 00:54:54,68 --> 00:55:00,53 engaged in quite brutal violence I'm sure lots of people I meet have this what you 611 00:55:00,54 --> 00:55:06,52 say deeps you know deep down inside they have this kind of cool easy Theel ing 612 00:55:06,56 --> 00:55:13,10 about Jews I'm sure that's true but it have any real substance 613 00:55:13,14 --> 00:55:19,72 substantial repercussions on me in my answers just know there's 614 00:55:19,73 --> 00:55:26,58 a kind of pathological narcissism navel contemplation 615 00:55:27,46 --> 00:55:32,82 when you are the richest wealthiest most successful ethnic group in the United 616 00:55:32,83 --> 00:55:35,69 States you've got the world on 617 00:55:35,70 --> 00:55:42,22 a platter. And you sit around and you're talking about anti semitism it's just kind 618 00:55:42,23 --> 00:55:46,74 of shameful I think at the time I first interviewed future statement I didn't 619 00:55:46,75 --> 00:55:47,51 realize what 620 00:55:47,52 --> 00:55:53,24 a controversial figure he was in the eyes of the Jewish establishment. The son of 621 00:55:53,25 --> 00:55:58,11 Holocaust survivors has been labeled a self hating Jew and one of those denier and 622 00:55:58,12 --> 00:56:03,29 a madman I had introduced stopped at the very mention of his name I know if you 623 00:56:03,30 --> 00:56:09,75 google Norman Finkelstein and Holocaust denier Nowadays you get about ten thousand 624 00:56:09,76 --> 00:56:15,41 websites Well if I'm a Holocaust denier if I'm 625 00:56:15,42 --> 00:56:20,55 a Holocaust denier I would have to be certifiably insane I would have to be 626 00:56:20,56 --> 00:56:26,41 clinically insane because given who my parents were for me to be denying the Nazi 627 00:56:26,42 --> 00:56:32,02 Holocaust I'd have to be clinically insane so you have to judge for yourself you 628 00:56:32,03 --> 00:56:38,45 may disagree with me but is it your impression that I'm clinically insane Now if 629 00:56:38,46 --> 00:56:45,10 you think I'm not then you have to wonder why are those ten thousand Web 630 00:56:45,11 --> 00:56:49,19 site saying that this is. The one piece of 631 00:56:49,20 --> 00:56:54,87 a disease if it was real and I haven't heard it from Jews outside of Israel. 632 00:56:56,82 --> 00:57:02,04 Is really is the cause of this if it is there is no way that we are suffering from 633 00:57:02,21 --> 00:57:08,20 this everything I would say that is nonsense comes from insecure Jews I think. 634 00:57:09,90 --> 00:57:16,35 People use Israel as an excuse to rationalize and legitimize because in many places 635 00:57:16,36 --> 00:57:22,68 of the world anti-Semitism is not acceptable it's not it's not polite it's not 636 00:57:22,69 --> 00:57:26,38 proper but if you can camouflage it if you can find 637 00:57:26,39 --> 00:57:29,14 a platform of of unusual event of 638 00:57:29,15 --> 00:57:36,08 a political discourse then you use it and we find every time there is conflict 639 00:57:36,09 --> 00:57:40,70 in the Middle East between Israel somebody else the level of anti-Semitism spikes 640 00:57:40,74 --> 00:57:46,20 right because the anti semites come out of their woodwork and now they can express 641 00:57:46,21 --> 00:57:51,06 themselves in their anti-Semitism in a in what they consider 642 00:57:51,07 --> 00:57:57,97 a legitimate license weight strangely enough folks to stay in agreed on one thing 643 00:57:58,19 --> 00:58:02,82 which is that most anti semitic incidents nowadays full under the category of new 644 00:58:02,83 --> 00:58:07,43 anti semitism The difference is that spokesman says that anti semites found 645 00:58:07,44 --> 00:58:11,64 a new target called Israel to which they could express their anti semitism. 646 00:58:13,04 --> 00:58:14,89 Believes that saying that he's 647 00:58:14,90 --> 00:58:19,15 a cynical misuse of the term and the semitism but attacks on the A.D.L. 648 00:58:19,19 --> 00:58:24,71 Seem to be coming from all directions so today in America there are two professors 649 00:58:25,70 --> 00:58:32,57 who are saying that Jews are more loyal to Israel and to 650 00:58:32,58 --> 00:58:39,46 America. Meir Shimer and Walt she disses what Patty near Shimer and world. 651 00:58:41,12 --> 00:58:47,98 There Shimer and Wall. Steve Walt and John Mearsheimer are to look at them 652 00:58:47,99 --> 00:58:51,32 exclude the University of Florida in Chicago who wrote 653 00:58:51,33 --> 00:58:55,08 a book called The Israeli lobby they claim that there is 654 00:58:55,09 --> 00:59:00,23 a lot in the US whose role is to support Israeli policy even if this policy goes 655 00:59:00,24 --> 00:59:04,04 against the interests of the US the role of the A.D.L. 656 00:59:04,05 --> 00:59:09,10 In this lobby he's to silence those who criticize Israeli policy saying they're 657 00:59:09,11 --> 00:59:14,18 actually and disseminating the skies Walt and Mearsheimer We invited to Israel 658 00:59:14,22 --> 00:59:18,89 Bigloo Shalom and left me is really an organization whose head is only of nearly 659 00:59:19,00 --> 00:59:24,42 a former parliament member and the peace activist I was very happy except that our 660 00:59:24,43 --> 00:59:29,13 invitation decreed to come here actually we've got 661 00:59:29,14 --> 00:59:34,94 a little bit afraid in the beginning there may be some difficulty to get them into 662 00:59:34,95 --> 00:59:41,64 it. Especially after what happened to Professor Norman Finkelstein or have been 663 00:59:41,65 --> 00:59:47,80 arrested and kept kept in heaven actually and then deported Stephen I 664 00:59:48,20 --> 00:59:54,59 travel all over the United States travel all over Europe or now walking 665 00:59:55,11 --> 01:00:00,92 I can honestly shocked by how little ever come across them I say. 666 01:00:02,00 --> 01:00:07,25 This is not to say we don't want to watch people who are critical of Israeli policy 667 01:00:07,63 --> 01:00:11,40 and shape here one of us really doing. Any. 668 01:00:16,84 --> 01:00:23,72 Research can call very much I mean for nothing because I know be of the time 669 01:00:23,73 --> 01:00:24,33 it may mean 670 01:00:24,34 --> 01:00:31,30 a slightly who gave me all met you mean. We've been at the 671 01:00:31,31 --> 01:00:38,03 neo. Ever leave you can say you mean I think it's only because Cheryl I. 672 01:00:39,53 --> 01:00:42,58 Smell it kill your female you are you more of 673 01:00:43,65 --> 01:00:50,38 a clever to. Cope with the way it was all over the ship. And you quote her 674 01:00:50,39 --> 01:00:55,44 liberty and equality are loaded I mean should it put me enough not time or him or 675 01:00:55,45 --> 01:01:00,88 tunnel. In him cough and up to him demure to show him course I'm up 676 01:01:00,89 --> 01:01:06,33 a court of motion him to be in London when you are for him the affirmative him him 677 01:01:06,34 --> 01:01:10,63 to harm him nigga because Billy Slater should never be in the hundred thousand 678 01:01:10,64 --> 01:01:14,34 Shoni too much in addition with a man. And 679 01:01:14,54 --> 01:01:21,29 a machine to do it does the muster light anything like it. Then. Tough 680 01:01:21,30 --> 01:01:25,77 obviously put them to shame you to hear me like but the cold is fairly good economy 681 01:01:25,81 --> 01:01:32,66 folks are nearly. And the. Efficiency shame you think little girl obviously in 682 01:01:32,67 --> 01:01:39,67 much of. My. Face so 683 01:01:39,68 --> 01:01:44,57 I. Had to shim you to. Tell you you know 684 01:01:44,58 --> 01:01:51,15 a buck and. Magician with me Big none of the story in there you dream for her DREAM 685 01:01:51,16 --> 01:01:55,59 COME IN AMERICA YOU deem. Become 686 01:01:55,60 --> 01:02:00,43 a Shia Muslim by merely going to say who her prophet image said church Norm Koger. 687 01:02:01,83 --> 01:02:08,00 Who said you had to share. What you think in America M T I love the monkey with the 688 01:02:08,01 --> 01:02:12,90 Slimmy my impish holy month the daughter and to share me. 689 01:02:15,45 --> 01:02:22,36 Should complete my diligence autumn is going to show him use of it my. Poems but 690 01:02:22,87 --> 01:02:29,82 to me. I asked them if they get the Portsmouth spokesman ideal Salazar was the last 691 01:02:29,83 --> 01:02:35,22 person I expected to see the event what was he doing here. They mention the A.D.L. 692 01:02:35,23 --> 01:02:39,03 a Couple of times in their in their thoughts and I told you that they were false 693 01:02:39,04 --> 01:02:42,07 these things and I can I went to Walt when he was grounded people said this and I'm 694 01:02:42,08 --> 01:02:42,88 from A.D.L. 695 01:02:43,16 --> 01:02:47,83 Whoa Ariel Sullivan and there's been two things you said about DID NOT incorrect or 696 01:02:47,84 --> 01:02:48,01 got 697 01:02:48,02 --> 01:02:52,31 a lot of interest from the foreign press I don't know about Israeli media. But really 698 01:02:52,32 --> 01:02:56,28 it's really media here. And merely going to get national It's. 699 01:02:59,68 --> 01:03:05,71 Just your call is money if you're leading. You to gradually give me that was good I 700 01:03:06,14 --> 01:03:12,79 can only wish the move for the. Me. From the moment upon 701 01:03:12,80 --> 01:03:15,57 a push with this region must on the human 702 01:03:15,58 --> 01:03:22,05 a little to the pursuit to pool our move afoot you can only look at best my last 703 01:03:22,06 --> 01:03:27,89 month on the good part luggage limits of normality the move on bar both of. 704 01:03:30,54 --> 01:03:36,31 Them kissing flivver on the scene. I want to show you show along. Surely because. 705 01:03:38,37 --> 01:03:40,78 Of a look that gets a few minutes 706 01:03:40,79 --> 01:03:45,46 a lovely mountain with built by volume has revealed here you're soft of 707 01:03:45,50 --> 01:03:50,51 a palm and this will be use benefit of the living they would be buggered off at the 708 01:03:50,52 --> 01:03:51,60 con but there's 709 01:03:51,61 --> 01:03:58,44 a few dollars they'll get it to go on the new film A should. Be so 710 01:03:58,98 --> 01:04:03,52 long mission in my youth are some digitals of the commute attitudinal money let me 711 01:04:03,53 --> 01:04:10,47 collect China she may. Of zero seven Chicago along with I got me I don't know if 712 01:04:10,48 --> 01:04:14,33 the whole world was shaken by water Michelle was but the Jewish establishment 713 01:04:14,34 --> 01:04:20,45 certainly was wise to say. Pretty sure we. 714 01:04:22,97 --> 01:04:29,92 Didn't. Teach each. And much object at the 715 01:04:29,93 --> 01:04:30,80 annual A.D.L. 716 01:04:30,81 --> 01:04:35,83 Convention the Israeli lobby book was the center of attention in the Foreign Office 717 01:04:35,84 --> 01:04:36,96 in Israel there was 718 01:04:36,97 --> 01:04:40,96 a three day convention dealing mostly with the issues raised in the book the 719 01:04:40,97 --> 01:04:45,75 Israeli lobby never before had the question of whether anti semitism and anti 720 01:04:45,76 --> 01:04:51,18 semitism are the same thing seemed so important experts and speakers from all over 721 01:04:51,19 --> 01:04:56,45 the world said the same thing the DOE's what like Israel are doing so simply 722 01:04:56,46 --> 01:05:00,99 because there are anti Semites in the skies people who hate us who would be our 723 01:05:01,00 --> 01:05:06,63 enemies will be thoughts and lunatics the other kind instead their soft spoken 724 01:05:06,64 --> 01:05:13,11 college professors explaining to us how we have stayed. So let this conference draw 725 01:05:13,12 --> 01:05:16,52 a line is that if you're an enemy of the Jewish people then we will fight you with 726 01:05:16,53 --> 01:05:22,94 the right for us. For our children. And for our children's children 727 01:05:23,76 --> 01:05:26,29 who will be if we did not and. 728 01:05:33,13 --> 01:05:37,46 After three days something happened which was more or less the equivalent of the 729 01:05:37,47 --> 01:05:43,79 bomb being thrown into the room if you came down from space you would think having 730 01:05:43,80 --> 01:05:49,84 looked at this conference that there was absolutely no problem in the West Bank or 731 01:05:49,85 --> 01:05:56,61 encounter one element of the reason why so many people around the world are angry 732 01:05:56,62 --> 01:06:02,20 with Israel is because of the continuing settlement and occupation of Palestinian 733 01:06:02,21 --> 01:06:08,63 land. And because Israel which has state power has not done enough 734 01:06:09,12 --> 01:06:15,55 to end the occupation one of the reasons such an occupation cannot be sustained 735 01:06:15,76 --> 01:06:21,62 without racism without violence and without humiliation against the people who are 736 01:06:21,89 --> 01:06:25,34 occupying banking it's I.E. 737 01:06:25,82 --> 01:06:29,63 I don't get it I just don't get it and let's see we're ironic. 738 01:06:40,20 --> 01:06:42,63 Baby Yes I you know we appreciate you 739 01:06:42,64 --> 01:06:46,13 a week I didn't really get what you did today was 740 01:06:46,14 --> 01:06:51,52 a prank she found to be looking for human rights that we call it this is more we 741 01:06:51,94 --> 01:06:56,03 say we think there are two problems in human rights and we're going to say 742 01:06:56,04 --> 01:07:01,32 definitively say no I choose to say something which has not yet been said by 743 01:07:01,49 --> 01:07:08,33 everybody. Just very soon case no not for the prosecution because Palestine 744 01:07:08,57 --> 01:07:14,38 was not mentioned before and that's why no one's maybe like force and see us and 745 01:07:14,39 --> 01:07:19,25 just ask how much time is that I'm female action almost any one you need to make 746 01:07:19,26 --> 01:07:24,91 nation which doesn't have the right to exist that much you know no one said Oh come 747 01:07:24,92 --> 01:07:30,87 no Mike said they Kosovo fight it poem segment she nation would you think that me 748 01:07:31,33 --> 01:07:37,58 and where do you think that the middle of She Comes from that I'm not sure. What 749 01:07:37,59 --> 01:07:41,78 you were saying is that the second scene in my case I can see I think you've 750 01:07:41,79 --> 01:07:46,66 already seen all true different sometimes the other things and it's kind of ironic 751 01:07:46,67 --> 01:07:49,90 really that I was some people as 752 01:07:49,91 --> 01:07:55,63 a sort of why wild eyed radical because where I come from 753 01:07:56,89 --> 01:07:57,90 I'm denounced as 754 01:07:58,18 --> 01:08:04,88 a right wing neo con Israeli support. And she posted in races. 755 01:08:09,18 --> 01:08:13,51 What does it say about this conference that. Well it says about this conference 756 01:08:13,52 --> 01:08:19,50 that there were some hard right wingers are. They are 757 01:08:20,36 --> 01:08:25,93 not in this conference with ballots not one. Speaking with David here she made me 758 01:08:25,94 --> 01:08:30,06 realize that it is very difficult to represent any other approach in the Jewish 759 01:08:30,07 --> 01:08:36,15 world those who try to say anything different or been silenced and you know have to 760 01:08:36,39 --> 01:08:43,34 make nothing but. Are you going to see you would like. To have more like OK 761 01:08:43,81 --> 01:08:45,81 here is was right there with your patient as 762 01:08:45,82 --> 01:08:51,97 a possible reason for justified criticism was not mentioned. Many Jewish people see 763 01:08:51,98 --> 01:08:53,16 anti semitism as 764 01:08:53,17 --> 01:08:58,59 a force of nature it has always been there and will always be there it will just 765 01:08:58,60 --> 01:09:03,54 take on different shapes and forms I find this difficult to accept this is 766 01:09:03,55 --> 01:09:09,75 a conference of people around the world blaming Jews as the worst human rights 767 01:09:09,76 --> 01:09:15,02 violators on the planet and the people who support Israel and they are under attack 768 01:09:15,19 --> 01:09:19,48 by supporting the colonialist apartheid state of Israel this is 769 01:09:19,61 --> 01:09:24,30 a warrant for attack on Jewish people it is internationally recognized that and 770 01:09:24,31 --> 01:09:29,17 they same reason is sometimes anti semitism is the wonderful he is right as it is 771 01:09:29,18 --> 01:09:34,41 rarely can this is the only thing that gives me hope to the three ships to what is 772 01:09:34,42 --> 01:09:38,35 otherwise there is no hope otherwise this is the doom but this is close this is 773 01:09:38,36 --> 01:09:42,50 a nice room that you're right it's populistic and you're losing you want to give us 774 01:09:42,51 --> 01:09:47,55 the hope for all of what we'll see but what he's doing but he's doing exactly that 775 01:09:47,68 --> 01:09:51,30 the print he has the problem of the left and here's the problem here's the problem 776 01:09:51,34 --> 01:09:56,03 you hear this analysis this is just like the wife was beaten by her husband because 777 01:09:56,04 --> 01:10:00,17 of the psychiatrist and she says it must be something I did because if it's not 778 01:10:00,18 --> 01:10:02,66 something I did that it's hopeless then he's 779 01:10:02,67 --> 01:10:07,90 a madman Well you need to find something you did to cause the hatred against you 780 01:10:08,10 --> 01:10:12,56 but guess what it's nothing that you did and it's too bad you are in chaos and the 781 01:10:12,57 --> 01:10:18,24 world is dangerous and Islam ism funded by the Saudis is teaching kids zillions of 782 01:10:18,25 --> 01:10:23,44 people around the world that you are evil before you came to Israel so this is your 783 01:10:23,45 --> 01:10:26,91 problem you are exactly right and you don't want that to be true maybe they're 784 01:10:26,92 --> 01:10:32,21 right maybe I'm just naive maybe all those people who this says Israel really are 785 01:10:32,26 --> 01:10:37,21 under Semites in disguise I'm heading to Chicago to speak with John Mearsheimer 786 01:10:37,55 --> 01:10:43,54 co-author of the Israeli lobby. I hope to have the courage to us came if is really 787 01:10:43,55 --> 01:10:45,15 an anti Semite in disguise. 788 01:10:51,25 --> 01:10:53,21 And but you know I kind of like took 789 01:10:53,22 --> 01:10:56,97 a few minutes Western to set up and he gave it bland as being obvious then I think 790 01:10:56,98 --> 01:11:02,66 if you try to think about it like you know because you're so so you know like I 791 01:11:02,67 --> 01:11:03,77 don't know if it gives 792 01:11:03,94 --> 01:11:07,46 a person like me because of making you think the moment to think maybe some of it 793 01:11:07,47 --> 01:11:12,32 was like you know fluids by base something which is you know could be 794 01:11:12,33 --> 01:11:19,22 a GOOD WITH OTHERS LIKE understand it understand it isn't no because 795 01:11:19,58 --> 01:11:25,91 I'm not anti-Semitic and I never had any doubt that I wasn't 796 01:11:26,06 --> 01:11:32,77 anti-Semitic and I just didn't see any need to do this. My 797 01:11:33,23 --> 01:11:39,76 arguments are not in any way shape or form hostile to Jews or hostile to the state 798 01:11:39,77 --> 01:11:43,77 of Israel and in fact Steve Walt and I go to great lengths in the books to make 799 01:11:43,97 --> 01:11:49,02 here in the book and in the article to make the case that we think the lobby's 800 01:11:49,03 --> 01:11:54,77 policies are not in Israel's interest or America's interests and we believe that 801 01:11:54,78 --> 01:11:59,03 the policies that we're pushing in the arguments that we're making are better for 802 01:11:59,04 --> 01:12:03,80 Israel and better for the United States no one can disagree with that but those 803 01:12:03,81 --> 01:12:08,72 arguments that we're making are not anti-semitic and we're not anti semites course 804 01:12:08,73 --> 01:12:13,96 it's almost impossible to prove that you're not an anti-semite just one reason that 805 01:12:13,97 --> 01:12:20,94 this charge is so effective has one say I'm not anti-Semitic and convince 806 01:12:20,95 --> 01:12:27,30 people who say you are my best friend right that's what you end up saying that 807 01:12:27,87 --> 01:12:32,68 my best friends are Jews some of my best friends are Jews of course is not 808 01:12:32,69 --> 01:12:38,16 a very convincing her get infected story given ths almost guaranteed to lose no 809 01:12:38,17 --> 01:12:40,98 question and by Semitism has been 810 01:12:41,77 --> 01:12:48,76 a poisonous. And I hope phenomenon over time and there's no question 811 01:12:48,77 --> 01:12:49,65 that someone like 812 01:12:50,22 --> 01:12:56,71 a pox man who grew up as an infant the young boy in Europe during the Holocaust is 813 01:12:56,72 --> 01:13:02,20 going to be affected by that history of anti-Semitism if they did eventually it's 814 01:13:02,21 --> 01:13:06,82 bad for Israel as well not only for the United States but this policy eventually 815 01:13:06,83 --> 01:13:12,84 going to be bad for Israel as well but that's not their goddamn business or to how 816 01:13:12,85 --> 01:13:19,80 I ask them to decide what's good for you. You know who you are today who are they 817 01:13:20,25 --> 01:13:20,89 who come to 818 01:13:20,90 --> 01:13:27,71 a judgment what will provide safety and security for you. That's not your business 819 01:13:28,09 --> 01:13:34,17 but I have I have an obsession in this place in which I. 820 01:13:35,85 --> 01:13:37,72 Am going and you need to find 821 01:13:37,73 --> 01:13:42,61 a way the latest battle Abe Foxman had taken upon himself against the anti semitic 822 01:13:42,62 --> 01:13:47,40 Polish dolls made me realize that his devotion to Israel is only part of the 823 01:13:47,41 --> 01:13:53,99 overall picture tradition you. See stereotypic the. 824 01:13:55,13 --> 01:13:59,19 Holding of a bag of money on this lucky it's 825 01:13:59,20 --> 01:14:02,45 a good luck charm for bright people think going to 826 01:14:02,46 --> 01:14:07,58 a new house of business because the Jews are so good with money it is discussed 827 01:14:07,59 --> 01:14:14,47 that. It is discussed. And now in the in the economic crisis 828 01:14:14,67 --> 01:14:19,60 you want to know how serious Jews and money is Jews are money is that what you want 829 01:14:19,77 --> 01:14:23,82 the public is good money is not the best thing to do you know you know what we're 830 01:14:23,83 --> 01:14:29,30 now sure it's that's those are the thing and pave the stones to lead to Auschwitz 831 01:14:29,57 --> 01:14:33,59 because of Jews have money you can get rid of the Jews you can get their money what 832 01:14:33,60 --> 01:14:36,08 kind of a good thing is that folks will is like 833 01:14:36,09 --> 01:14:42,42 a very sensitive radar for Jewish issues. The memory of the Holocaust is always in 834 01:14:42,43 --> 01:14:43,84 the background like 835 01:14:43,85 --> 01:14:49,97 a warning sign of what can happen if things are not dealt with at the right time I 836 01:14:49,98 --> 01:14:53,64 want to ask you a question look over here you see 837 01:14:53,65 --> 01:14:58,83 a holocaust coming it's crazy 838 01:15:00,73 --> 01:15:05,84 there's so much hunger so much starvation the world so many people are suffering 839 01:15:06,83 --> 01:15:10,33 and I want to get excited about some idiot painting 840 01:15:10,34 --> 01:15:17,29 a swastika somewhere. Fifteen lost his job at the university because of 841 01:15:17,30 --> 01:15:21,92 what he claims was pressure from the Israeli lobby. Then he was denied entry to 842 01:15:21,93 --> 01:15:24,97 Israel because he was not as though to what is described as 843 01:15:25,22 --> 01:15:31,58 a security hazard would you be Jewish himself is probably unprecedented if you can 844 01:15:31,59 --> 01:15:35,83 still reminds me of the biblical prophets of doom who are always be pelted with 845 01:15:35,84 --> 01:15:40,80 stones to see things nobody wanted to hear one of the major kind of. 846 01:15:43,09 --> 01:15:47,13 Claims here from people like the idea of you know other Jewish people is that like 847 01:15:47,52 --> 01:15:52,21 how come always picking people picking up on Israel how come there are so much you 848 01:15:52,22 --> 01:15:56,01 know and justice you know in other parts of the world and nobody speaks about you 849 01:15:56,02 --> 01:16:01,75 know what is the reason I think that it'll listen I open the radio I hear nonstop 850 01:16:01,76 --> 01:16:08,48 about some Then I hear nonstop about Tibet I hear nonstop about 851 01:16:08,52 --> 01:16:11,14 Darfur I hear 852 01:16:11,15 --> 01:16:16,51 a lot the only place I hear excuses made for is Israel 853 01:16:18,34 --> 01:16:25,02 that's the place where I hear excuses and we do have to remember it is the oldest 854 01:16:25,03 --> 01:16:29,98 occupation in the world I mean for the years really is enough it's only been young 855 01:16:31,41 --> 01:16:38,28 it's only the new occupation doesn't that kind of stunned 856 01:16:38,29 --> 01:16:44,98 you the irony is that the Nazi Holocaust has now become the main ideological 857 01:16:45,09 --> 01:16:49,100 weapon for launching wars of aggression every time you want to launch 858 01:16:50,01 --> 01:16:56,48 a war of aggression dragging the Nazi Holocaust it's the suffering then 859 01:16:56,52 --> 01:17:02,96 used as another pretext or excuse to 860 01:17:02,97 --> 01:17:09,87 humiliate degrade and torture the Palestinians that's the problem the suffering 861 01:17:09,91 --> 01:17:10,74 comes as 862 01:17:10,75 --> 01:17:17,75 a package. Then comes here is suffering now we blow up your house here 863 01:17:17,76 --> 01:17:23,27 is the suffering now we take your land here is the suffering now we drop our 864 01:17:23,28 --> 01:17:27,17 television show or shoot artillery shells at your villages it's 865 01:17:27,18 --> 01:17:33,01 a package deal with Israel and its American supporters it's not just suffering it's 866 01:17:33,02 --> 01:17:39,37 suffering which is then wrapped in the club and the club is then used to break the 867 01:17:39,38 --> 01:17:45,66 skulls of the Palestinians that's the problem it's not being used to educate people 868 01:17:46,29 --> 01:17:53,21 it's not being used to enlighten people it's NOT be used to make people more moral 869 01:17:53,52 --> 01:18:00,36 It can be but it's not I mean it's not that's the whole point of course it can be 870 01:18:00,92 --> 01:18:06,29 but it isn't it's the best thing that will ever happen to Israel if they get rid of 871 01:18:06,30 --> 01:18:13,28 these American Jews who are warmongers from Martha's Vineyard and their warmongers 872 01:18:13,29 --> 01:18:18,81 from the Hamptons and their warmonger some Beverly Hills and their warmongers from 873 01:18:18,82 --> 01:18:25,54 Miami and the disaster for Israel you know it's the best thing that they can ever 874 01:18:25,55 --> 01:18:32,50 get rid of this American jury to curse Finkelstein Foxman he's the main enemy. 875 01:18:35,92 --> 01:18:41,29 You think that's what you're not going to get like. Some people laugh you're going 876 01:18:41,30 --> 01:18:45,31 for most of the third of its time it's an insult to Hitler. 877 01:18:48,64 --> 01:18:55,50 Hell or at least didn't do it for money. His own trauma is the son 878 01:18:55,51 --> 01:19:00,04 of Holocaust survivors to the opposite extreme when I asked him if he had any 879 01:19:00,05 --> 01:19:04,62 sympathy for the Israeli victims as well as for the Palestinians he compared the 880 01:19:04,66 --> 01:19:09,61 Israeli casualties to the German casualties in World War two you know they're funny 881 01:19:09,62 --> 01:19:16,25 I have to tell your friend well I've come from the side. I mean why the 882 01:19:16,26 --> 01:19:22,51 Nazis right. They call them I mean the Nazi been worrying call charged with 883 01:19:22,63 --> 01:19:28,82 conspiracy Nazi genocide in scope and greater Nazi. They can call the. 884 01:19:30,42 --> 01:19:35,54 Real Nazi They all said each of them said one is worse than Hitler that's the whole 885 01:19:35,55 --> 01:19:41,86 language from your side it's also which I thought you know everything in my house 886 01:19:42,08 --> 01:19:48,38 before worst enough it's the close worst and that's the house you go up and all the 887 01:19:48,39 --> 01:19:53,62 sudden you get so pious when I go like that you know society is like that 888 01:19:56,33 --> 01:20:03,11 was for me young member when they were being with us us before you were shocked and 889 01:20:03,12 --> 01:20:03,67 then you all of 890 01:20:03,68 --> 01:20:09,78 a sudden get some guidance I just feel like because of what because of 891 01:20:09,79 --> 01:20:12,24 a fax machine we have to be pious with 892 01:20:12,25 --> 01:20:19,19 a fax machine I hope I'm on the phone. I'm just I'm sleeping 893 01:20:19,34 --> 01:20:23,84 how other people perceive yourself you know you can go and do it all day long and I 894 01:20:23,91 --> 01:20:25,96 did it with you yeah but there's 895 01:20:25,97 --> 01:20:32,25 a feeling you know that you know the people who. Get out. That's my view and that 896 01:20:32,26 --> 01:20:36,91 of their own that August you know should stay in the film I don't. 897 01:20:39,75 --> 01:20:40,15 Think I. 898 01:20:49,84 --> 01:20:53,53 Like the neighborhood very much. Look at the breeze. 899 01:21:00,61 --> 01:21:05,43 The last time I was with folks mine was in Auschwitz the Israeli army says its 900 01:21:05,44 --> 01:21:06,33 officers on 901 01:21:06,34 --> 01:21:11,09 a pole and sweep similar to the one the kids are going through. This year for the 902 01:21:11,10 --> 01:21:13,11 first time ever and A.D.L. 903 01:21:13,12 --> 01:21:19,20 Mission became an integral part of the Israeli Defense Force mission. Marching next 904 01:21:19,21 --> 01:21:24,55 to Fox mine is the deputy chief of staff the second in command of the Israeli army 905 01:21:26,25 --> 01:21:29,56 on Fox was left is the Israeli ambassador to Poland. 906 01:21:47,31 --> 01:21:47,63 For. 907 01:21:58,84 --> 01:22:05,59 Because we're number three in the world in the world. It's not good for 908 01:22:05,60 --> 01:22:12,54 huge sympathy but it's the biggest. Cemetery ever so. 909 01:22:17,03 --> 01:22:23,33 Why don't they have it yours. But that's three men. Yeah but this 910 01:22:23,67 --> 01:22:26,37 place was. The worst. 911 01:22:35,49 --> 01:22:40,21 I can claim on. The show. She mother threw 912 01:22:40,22 --> 01:22:46,56 a vote on. A much more sensitive to follow the new mood. 913 01:22:48,95 --> 01:22:53,10 Among callers model different Malena that put the words about I was off woods 914 01:22:53,11 --> 01:22:55,84 across. The market 915 01:22:56,61 --> 01:23:02,17 a good many mixed feelings are. Going to where you only months if you make with us 916 01:23:02,18 --> 01:23:06,59 well. I'm a one shot deal by 917 01:23:06,60 --> 01:23:12,92 a minuscule amount of the sides of both. Of Us because I'm sort of famous as the 918 01:23:12,93 --> 01:23:19,59 bulk of the walk along the floor level. And 919 01:23:19,60 --> 01:23:20,33 a human scream 920 01:23:20,34 --> 01:23:27,23 a come up with one off the cuff low scream down the norm of. This office 921 01:23:27,24 --> 01:23:33,88 and go get. Me mushy bits if you screw up and you know some software. Behind the 922 01:23:33,89 --> 01:23:38,23 hospitals is a grown man who looks as good. As a bull in 923 01:23:38,24 --> 01:23:44,47 a movie. That I. Was arguably one of the well known in the world. 924 01:23:46,09 --> 01:23:49,91 It's money it's a limit almost over all I mean going but it's 925 01:23:49,92 --> 01:23:52,63 a muscle so I just want on the top of of those up. 926 01:24:00,28 --> 01:24:00,85 I think. 927 01:24:16,49 --> 01:24:21,59 The. Thing out here has been sanitation of the. 928 01:24:23,12 --> 01:24:26,16 Where. Was the question it's 929 01:24:26,17 --> 01:24:30,97 a hobby. But the whole aim being. 930 01:24:33,09 --> 01:24:38,16 Here when you're doing nothing either or. Both. 931 01:24:40,66 --> 01:24:46,74 Of. You are members of 932 01:24:46,75 --> 01:24:49,18 a dog so closer than us we share 933 01:24:49,19 --> 01:24:54,95 a. Love that isn't that of course. Before we talk. 934 01:24:56,34 --> 01:25:00,70 Of the size. Of Us or whatnot I'm sure I do I'm sure. 935 01:25:03,31 --> 01:25:10,26 The city I'm dockets and I. Should chill night. Club will show. 936 01:25:11,75 --> 01:25:14,02 You make you sit right. 937 01:25:41,77 --> 01:25:48,58 This is this is. This is. 938 01:25:59,27 --> 01:26:05,83 The minute you know you. Can do. To Get 939 01:26:06,06 --> 01:26:08,26 On My Feet be bigger. 940 01:26:15,42 --> 01:26:21,76 For. The club this is still the. 941 01:26:23,93 --> 01:26:28,60 Bill that I do believe that if. We. 942 01:26:59,56 --> 01:26:59,79 Give it. 943 01:27:07,26 --> 01:27:08,01 To you. 944 01:27:23,17 --> 01:27:29,64 I've walked I'd walk this road before full of despair force anguish. 945 01:27:31,17 --> 01:27:37,56 Toward and Freo the strength behind you and one hundred fifty 946 01:27:37,69 --> 01:27:44,12 officers of all the levels of the Israeli army. Walk with pride. 947 01:27:45,15 --> 01:27:47,79 I walk with hope I hope with strength. 948 01:28:07,12 --> 01:28:13,98 That though is a ninth look on my violin a sock that's going to show that. I'm 949 01:28:13,99 --> 01:28:19,21 a veteran now. Came in their thirty's and needles the initial tones and. 950 01:28:21,74 --> 01:28:28,23 Put it up it's all. In the way. And call is that. 951 01:28:29,32 --> 01:28:35,30 And not something. You saw. Or heard of the 952 01:28:36,10 --> 01:28:40,47 letter. Again other than Mrs Lemon and all. 953 01:28:43,11 --> 01:28:50,10 The number of come one by. My feeling was coming to an end 954 01:28:50,84 --> 01:28:54,76 to say look to the slip in kids and I thought of putting so much emphasis on the 955 01:28:54,77 --> 01:28:58,28 past as so rich because it has been is holding us back. 956 01:29:17,17 --> 01:29:20,80 Maybe it's about time to live in the present and look to the future. 957 01:29:55,25 --> 01:30:00,67 Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. 958 01:30:02,88 --> 01:30:09,64 Whoa. Whoa whoa whoa. 959 01:30:10,42 --> 01:30:11,17 Shit on. 960 01:30:22,38 --> 01:30:27,36 The move. Go. 961 01:30:31,17 --> 01:30:31,77 Show them. 962 01:30:41,96 --> 01:30:48,83 Love. Them you 963 01:30:48,97 --> 01:30:51,35 see. He. 964 01:31:03,54 --> 01:31:07,15 Was. Awesome. 965 01:31:16,33 --> 01:31:22,21 Wouldn't let. Us. 966 01:31:25,73 --> 01:31:31,73 Run up. The 967 01:31:31,74 --> 01:31:32,97 shoulder. 968 01:31:43,22 --> 01:31:49,65 The. Eagle. 969 01:31:53,86 --> 01:31:56,11 Eagle was. 970 01:32:00,31 --> 01:32:03,19 UP OH 971 01:32:03,37 --> 01:32:04,56 OH OH OH 972 01:32:13,55 --> 01:32:13,55 .